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In a message dated 11/14/07 10:56:32 P.M. Central Standard Time, News@JobDestruction.info writes:

<<<<< JOB DESTRUCTION NEWSLETTER  No. 1783 -- 11/14/2007 >>>>>

Lou Dobbs did an exceptional story (11/13/2007) on the controversy over
whether universities are producing enough science and engineering
graduates. Dobbs totally debunks the claims made by corporations who claim
that they need more H-1Bs because there aren't enough qualified Americans
to do the jobs.

Dobbs discussed the new study by the Urban Institute and interviewed Vivek
Wadhwa, one of the research partners in the study, and Paul Almeida,
AFL-CIO. He uses the same data from the study that I used for the CIO
article linked below. Pay particular attention to the calculations on the
first page because Dobbs flashes the same numbers but very quickly:

Wadhwamania
http://advice.cio.com/rob_sanchez/wadhwamania

Perhaps the best moment of the video is towards the end when Dobbs
challenges Bill Gates to debate the need for unlimited H-1B visas. Dobbs
and Bill Tucker totally expose Gates' lies and obscuration, which was quite
fitting considering the show was done in Seattle.

The transcript below really doesn't do justice to this particular news
show, so I provide the video clip here:

No Need for Cheap Foreign Labor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LXvGD5HgIg

Dobbs also had a stinging story on the outsourcing debacle at Boeing. He
showed how Boeing's offshoring of the R&D and production of the 787
Dreamliner has been an unprecedented fiasco. Unfortunately the transrcipt
doesn't include the story, and I didn't record a clip of it.


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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0711/13/ldt.01.html

And, we'll challenge corporate America's repeated assertions it can't find
enough qualified Americans to fill key technology jobs. It turns out it
just ain't so. Imagine that. We'll have that story, and a great deal more
as we continue, live tonight with our "Independents Day" tour, live from,
you guessed it, there's the Space Needle, Seattle, Washington. We'll be
right back.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

DOBBS: New study show American colleges are producing more than enough
graduates in Science and Math in this country to fill the needs of U.S.
business, but corporate America continues to claim there simply aren't
enough Americans trained in those fields and they must hire foreign
workers, workers that of course end up being paid quite a bit less than
American workers.

Bill Tucker has our report.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

BILL TUCKER, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): There is no shortage of
students studying for careers in Math and Science. There is a shortage of
jobs. That's the simply bottom line finding of a new study from the Urban
Institute.

The study shows that between 1985 and 2000 435,000 U.S. citizens and
permanent residents a year graduated with Bachelors, Masters, and Doctoral
degrees in Science and Engineering. That's three times the number of jobs
in Science and Engineering added per year, 150,000 during that time.

Separately Michael Teitelbaum at the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation told
Congress last week that neither he nor a separate study by the RAND
Corporation can find any evidence of worker shortages. These studies are
not anomalies.

VIVEK WADHWA, HARVARD UNIVERSITY: Bottom line is that all of our research
at Duke and now at Harvard shows the same thing. That there is no shortage
of engineers; there's no shortage of scientists. Companies aren't going
abroad because of skills. They're going abroad because it's cheaper.

TUCKER: As a result, Wadhwa says that more than half of the engineering
graduate students at Duke don't pursue engineering as a career and there is
another indicator that the market is anything but short of scientists and
engineers.

PAUL ALMEIDA, DEPT. FOR PROF. EMPLOYEES, AFL-CIO: We should be trying to
figure out how to incentivize (ph) students to advance in these Math and
Science areas. It's clearly that there is no shortage. If there is a
shortage, the supply and demand wages would be going up in these areas.

TUCKER: Wages in the science and engineering fields over the last five
years when adjusted for inflation have been basically flat.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

TUCKER: Now Lou, that's the Urban Institute, the Alfred P. Sloan (ph)
Foundation, Duke, Harvard, the RAND Corporation. Studies done independently
of each other, different researches, different funding, all reaching the
same basic conclusion that there is no worker shortage. Lou, the problem is
not a lack of workers. The problem these studies all conclude is a lack of
companies hiring them. And as we've reported many, many times on this
program those companies either off-shore the work or as you mentioned at
the top, demand more H-1B visas and then pay those workers less -- Lou.

DOBBS: We've been reporting on this issue, the exporting of American jobs,
the outsourcing of American jobs, middle class jobs, for four years. And
point of fact, the idea that all of these highly regarded, highly respected
institutions have found the same thing that we have reported her for four
years. Congress just last week, the subcommittee on technology and
innovation, suggesting that 30 to 40 percent of American jobs now are at
risk of being outsourced, in addition to the H-1B problem.

TUCKER: Right.

DOBBS: Let's put this in some context. Let's just deal with that H-1B
program, which all of these companies want to bring those foreign workers
in under. What's the number of Indian companies that are using H-1B visas,
seeking H-1B visas for the purpose of outsourcing those jobs right here in
the United States?

TUCKER: Well five of the top six users of the H-1B visa program, Lou, as
you well know, are Indian companies.

DOBBS: Yes I did, but I wanted because I'm in Seattle, Washington, tonight
Bill Tucker, and I thank you very much -- I want to repeat that just for
the purpose, the benefit, the illumination, the education, the
enlightenment of one of the -- this city's most famous citizens, Microsoft
Chairman Bill Gates. Bill Gates is among those calling for more H-1B visas.
In fact, Bill Gates wants an unlimited number of H-1B visas. And we really
think it's important that he be brought up-to-date on this issue. Gates
testified before a Senate committee in March -- by the way, he was the only
witness and there was only one fellow chariot -- that was Senator Ted
Kennedy -- and Gates said the United States should allow, as he put it, an
infinite number of foreign workers. We can't get above infinite no matter
what we do.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

BILL GATES, MICROSOFT CHAIRMAN: We have to welcome the great minds in this
world, not shut them out of our country. Unfortunately, our immigration
policies are driving away the world's best and brightest precisely when we
need them the most.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

DOBBS: Bill Gates, you just heard the RAND Corporation, the Urban
Institute, Harvard University, come on and look at the facts. Most of those
H-1B visas are being used by Indian companies seeking to outsource jobs at
a very, very reduced wage. In fact, most of the H-1B computer professionals
in this country are brought in at the lowest skill levels; about half of
the H-1B visa computer professionals recently admitted to the United
States, in fact during the (INAUDIBLE) entry level salaries, so much for
the advanced, best minds. These are entry level jobs, not the highly
skilled jobs seeking those H-1B visas.

So Mr. Gates, I certainly hope that you and I can have a discussion on
that. I'm sure that you would be delighted to do that, but I'm going to ask
for something less than an infinite number of H- 1B visas and when we
compromise, as a matter of fact, I want to return to two years ago levels.


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